Deportation Destinations: Gratitude and Practicality at the Forefront
Posted by HCN on Tuesday, February 18, 2025
There is no one international law, to the knowledge of many, that says a host country has to reach into their own pockets and safely transport, not just 2 or 3, but several hundred illegal immigrants safely to a place anywhere near what they call their original homeland.
In general, there ordinarily may be expectations for host deporting nations when deporting, to do so in a reasonably stable manner.
There are several factors that involve risk when deporting individuals. In the scope of deporting from the US:
The first is safety. In a time when strange airplane happenings have been occurring around the globe, including crash landings, and planes literally upside down on the runway, as was seen in Canada just hours ago, it can actually be somewhat of a burden for a host nation to even start the process of flying deportees, even to just a few minutes next door.
A second factor is cost. The cost of the service of pilots flying the airplanes, the manpower, the cost of the plane, the cost of the fuel to fly the planes, those figures add up. Often at the end of the day, planes flying deportees are at the expense of US tax payers' dollars.
There is another safety factor, and that is the recipient location of the deportees. Are the airports safe?, can they accommodate the flights?, what are all the security logistics? and many more questions like these may exist in the process.
Dust storms, limited visibility, airport canopies collapsing, and other advents, can endanger the lives of hundreds at a time in a matter of seconds.
There are a lot of logistics in just getting illegal immigrants onto the airplane to deport them.
The transportation to the plane. Making sure everyone has had a reasonable amount of food. The costs involved with the courts, again at the expense of taxpayers dollars.
The rationale of going about deporting as though there are slim pickings has a wisdom.
Picture this, transport every illegal immigrant to the airport in a new Rolls Royce, then give them a luxury seat on a Concorde jet, dropping them off to their hometown, then limo each deportee to the doorstep they left from, after feeding them with 3 full meals for each day purchased from a fancy restaurant. A little far-fetched and a little expensive? You can see where funding and time expenditure starts to add up.
It is almost mind-boggling the amount of illegal immigrants in the US, nevermind the number being deported.
Illegal immigrants could be forced to pay, and put the burden of costs on others, in not as nice or graciously hosted circumstances.
There is a sense of urgency especially after a number of attacks conducted by illegal immigrants occurred, to address the problem of the presence of illegal immigrants. Perhaps if certain incidents did not happen, then deportations may have had a softer unfolding; but for right now, the deportations is about as soft as can be, given the sheer amount of effort that has gone into making sure hundreds or thousands of individuals from a range of ages and origins, are reasonably taken care of, with an amount of respect given to them in the process.
Questions recently started to arise in the past several days, such as why are deportation planes arriving in Amritsar? A location just south of Jammu and Kashmir toward the top of the diamond of northern India, just east of the border with Pakistan. The region can be called today 'the Punjab'. But hey, 'the Punjab' boundaries, geographically especially, have changed over the years. Aspects of what the Punjab was known for has changed over the decades and centuries. Today, the steep culture and value systems that Punjabis used to uphold just 50 years ago, may be further removed from what can be described as popularly known and understood. This whole thing about, there might be an ulterior motive for the destination of deportees to Amritsar Airport such as possibly to dampen the reputation of Punjabis, is about tenuous even for thoughts about the subject back in the Punjab. Only a few learned persons with erudition and scholars, are possibly going to differentiate the Punjab from other parts of India in the dimensions such as, what cultures are inclined to do what than what, and what are the values. (Example, fine lines of sufi practices in perhaps ideals in the region, in areas of thought, while studying thought of scholar tiers in Hindu systems; even very knowledgeable individuals from the region will tell you there is a lot of information to get command of.) There are some statistics involved in this week's picture of deportations, such as an amount of persons from the Punjab (deported), an amount reflected from those from Haryana just south of there, a few from Gujarat, and so on. Ok, some deportees might have a few hours travel time ahead of them if they wish to go all the way back home, if that actually really be their precise home; and there might be some interior tensions within India, referring to aspects bureaucratic, upon discussing selection of Punjab amidst other stirrings involving the Punjab.
Our American pilots mission includes landing huge airplanes safely; their safety, and the deportees safety a priority. Making it to the nearest airport, which the reports are is the primary factor, is sound.
There is a lot of work involved in the deportation business, and a lot more work to do. Getting hung up on choice of airport a hundred miles from one to the next, the math and logistics in the nature of climate challenges in flights, just do not leave room for it. Surely the US does not have a want to diminish allegiances and diplomatic ties. In the work that lay ahead, flights are slated in the very near future to locations like Costa Rica and Panama.
There may be a degree of gratitude deserved, that the deportees got as close as they did to their homes in the manner that they did.
In general, there ordinarily may be expectations for host deporting nations when deporting, to do so in a reasonably stable manner.
There are several factors that involve risk when deporting individuals. In the scope of deporting from the US:
The first is safety. In a time when strange airplane happenings have been occurring around the globe, including crash landings, and planes literally upside down on the runway, as was seen in Canada just hours ago, it can actually be somewhat of a burden for a host nation to even start the process of flying deportees, even to just a few minutes next door.
A second factor is cost. The cost of the service of pilots flying the airplanes, the manpower, the cost of the plane, the cost of the fuel to fly the planes, those figures add up. Often at the end of the day, planes flying deportees are at the expense of US tax payers' dollars.
There is another safety factor, and that is the recipient location of the deportees. Are the airports safe?, can they accommodate the flights?, what are all the security logistics? and many more questions like these may exist in the process.
Dust storms, limited visibility, airport canopies collapsing, and other advents, can endanger the lives of hundreds at a time in a matter of seconds.
There are a lot of logistics in just getting illegal immigrants onto the airplane to deport them.
The transportation to the plane. Making sure everyone has had a reasonable amount of food. The costs involved with the courts, again at the expense of taxpayers dollars.
The rationale of going about deporting as though there are slim pickings has a wisdom.
Picture this, transport every illegal immigrant to the airport in a new Rolls Royce, then give them a luxury seat on a Concorde jet, dropping them off to their hometown, then limo each deportee to the doorstep they left from, after feeding them with 3 full meals for each day purchased from a fancy restaurant. A little far-fetched and a little expensive? You can see where funding and time expenditure starts to add up.
It is almost mind-boggling the amount of illegal immigrants in the US, nevermind the number being deported.
Illegal immigrants could be forced to pay, and put the burden of costs on others, in not as nice or graciously hosted circumstances.
There is a sense of urgency especially after a number of attacks conducted by illegal immigrants occurred, to address the problem of the presence of illegal immigrants. Perhaps if certain incidents did not happen, then deportations may have had a softer unfolding; but for right now, the deportations is about as soft as can be, given the sheer amount of effort that has gone into making sure hundreds or thousands of individuals from a range of ages and origins, are reasonably taken care of, with an amount of respect given to them in the process.
Questions recently started to arise in the past several days, such as why are deportation planes arriving in Amritsar? A location just south of Jammu and Kashmir toward the top of the diamond of northern India, just east of the border with Pakistan. The region can be called today 'the Punjab'. But hey, 'the Punjab' boundaries, geographically especially, have changed over the years. Aspects of what the Punjab was known for has changed over the decades and centuries. Today, the steep culture and value systems that Punjabis used to uphold just 50 years ago, may be further removed from what can be described as popularly known and understood. This whole thing about, there might be an ulterior motive for the destination of deportees to Amritsar Airport such as possibly to dampen the reputation of Punjabis, is about tenuous even for thoughts about the subject back in the Punjab. Only a few learned persons with erudition and scholars, are possibly going to differentiate the Punjab from other parts of India in the dimensions such as, what cultures are inclined to do what than what, and what are the values. (Example, fine lines of sufi practices in perhaps ideals in the region, in areas of thought, while studying thought of scholar tiers in Hindu systems; even very knowledgeable individuals from the region will tell you there is a lot of information to get command of.) There are some statistics involved in this week's picture of deportations, such as an amount of persons from the Punjab (deported), an amount reflected from those from Haryana just south of there, a few from Gujarat, and so on. Ok, some deportees might have a few hours travel time ahead of them if they wish to go all the way back home, if that actually really be their precise home; and there might be some interior tensions within India, referring to aspects bureaucratic, upon discussing selection of Punjab amidst other stirrings involving the Punjab.
Our American pilots mission includes landing huge airplanes safely; their safety, and the deportees safety a priority. Making it to the nearest airport, which the reports are is the primary factor, is sound.
There is a lot of work involved in the deportation business, and a lot more work to do. Getting hung up on choice of airport a hundred miles from one to the next, the math and logistics in the nature of climate challenges in flights, just do not leave room for it. Surely the US does not have a want to diminish allegiances and diplomatic ties. In the work that lay ahead, flights are slated in the very near future to locations like Costa Rica and Panama.
There may be a degree of gratitude deserved, that the deportees got as close as they did to their homes in the manner that they did.
