Another Phase that Can Challenge Peace: Who is Really Who, Distinguishing Terrorist from Legitimate Rightful Leadership and Law Enforcement.
Posted by HCN on Friday, November 21, 2025
Written and published the evening of 11/20/2025 EST
The US is not the only place going through these motions.
Aspects may swarm globally.
Right through here mid-November 2025, a lot of people are trying to distinguish right from left, and sort out the good guys from the bad guys in Kashmir, post the Red Fort blast, 11/10, a few days ago.
Although the incident may have physically affected a certain amount of people, it has affected many in other aspects, and could be used as a model to study in the prevention of other incidents and hence peace altogether.
In the beginning processes of investigations, Kashmir came under the limelight.
Concerns of different kinds have arisen besides just mitigating what might look to be bad guys. Such as, are good guys getting wrongfully accused, what could stop that, the fair sorting process and ensuring of that.
There is a markedly salient concern, which is the use of vague and standard religious concepts words, to refer to terror groups that may claim religion but practice so little of it if it all, they almost have nothing to do with it.
There are terms and concepts in existence that have been here since about as long as man his been in existence, at least; for example, here are a few very old words and concepts that are universally acceptable in themselves, with Arabic and globally recognized transliterations into English that are commonly woven into terror group names these days:
Peace - Islam
Pure - Hanif
Helper - Nasr
Army - Jaysh
Not only is the existence or prospect of the existence of terror groups a concern, gangs are also problematic. It gets more complex when gangs start out doing good and simple acceptable activities, such as bringing food to the elderly, then they grow, and start slowly turning toward left directives, such as gaining money is the top priority even if they are breaking the law, then comes ongoing criminal activity for money, the obfuscation, the process of making themselves shadowy, recruitment and exploitation of youth, power trips, and so on. Moreover is the involvement with terrorist activity and forming links with terror groups, perhaps even morphing into terror groups themselves.
The following is a briefly put together slice of developments that could form up the situation of who is on the right, the left, questions abound whether there has been crossing the line in the sand from religious to criminality. A few comments are provided. Meanwhile in the US, over the past week, news is rife with people with 'Muslim Middle Eastern sounding names using the names of well known legends of high degree', sometimes in hand-holding conspiracies with others with Latino or Hispanic names, etc. Places like NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles, Nashville, and areas in Texas, are contending with these problems.
Most of the content below are translations from Turkish to English. The slice:
Reference fetö/pdy or FETO/PDY-
The US is not the only place going through these motions.
Aspects may swarm globally.
Right through here mid-November 2025, a lot of people are trying to distinguish right from left, and sort out the good guys from the bad guys in Kashmir, post the Red Fort blast, 11/10, a few days ago.
Although the incident may have physically affected a certain amount of people, it has affected many in other aspects, and could be used as a model to study in the prevention of other incidents and hence peace altogether.
In the beginning processes of investigations, Kashmir came under the limelight.
Concerns of different kinds have arisen besides just mitigating what might look to be bad guys. Such as, are good guys getting wrongfully accused, what could stop that, the fair sorting process and ensuring of that.
There is a markedly salient concern, which is the use of vague and standard religious concepts words, to refer to terror groups that may claim religion but practice so little of it if it all, they almost have nothing to do with it.
There are terms and concepts in existence that have been here since about as long as man his been in existence, at least; for example, here are a few very old words and concepts that are universally acceptable in themselves, with Arabic and globally recognized transliterations into English that are commonly woven into terror group names these days:
Peace - Islam
Pure - Hanif
Helper - Nasr
Army - Jaysh
Not only is the existence or prospect of the existence of terror groups a concern, gangs are also problematic. It gets more complex when gangs start out doing good and simple acceptable activities, such as bringing food to the elderly, then they grow, and start slowly turning toward left directives, such as gaining money is the top priority even if they are breaking the law, then comes ongoing criminal activity for money, the obfuscation, the process of making themselves shadowy, recruitment and exploitation of youth, power trips, and so on. Moreover is the involvement with terrorist activity and forming links with terror groups, perhaps even morphing into terror groups themselves.
The following is a briefly put together slice of developments that could form up the situation of who is on the right, the left, questions abound whether there has been crossing the line in the sand from religious to criminality. A few comments are provided. Meanwhile in the US, over the past week, news is rife with people with 'Muslim Middle Eastern sounding names using the names of well known legends of high degree', sometimes in hand-holding conspiracies with others with Latino or Hispanic names, etc. Places like NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles, Nashville, and areas in Texas, are contending with these problems.
Most of the content below are translations from Turkish to English. The slice:
Reference fetö/pdy or FETO/PDY-
"Referred to as the Fethullahist Terrorist Organization [ 52 ] or the Parallel State Structure (PDY)
It is claimed to have emerged as a social movement that carried out its activities in various countries, primarily in Turkey . On the other hand, the Fethullahists have organized themselves especially in the Turkish police and judicial bodies and have established a dominance in critical positions. [ 19 ] Therefore, according to some, the Fethullahists are a conservative formation that aims to reshape secular Turkey in its own image by securing its dominance over politics, government, education, media, business, public and personal life. [ 19 ] [ 20 ] In order to completely dominate the Turkish Armed Forces, the Fethullahists, with the help of their members in the police, judiciary, politics, media and the armed forces, have imprisoned or purged more than a thousand soldiers, mostly high-ranking, who served in the Turkish army, using forged documents and evidence in investigations such as the Ergenekon , Balyoz , Poyrazköy and Military Espionage cases. [ 21 ] These soldiers have been replaced by Fethullahist soldiers. [ 22 ] [ 23 ] [ 24 ] [ 25 ] The Fethullahists carried out similar attempts within the judiciary, security forces and politics. The leader of the organization, Gülen, personally asked his members to take over state positions and emphasized the importance of establishing positions, especially in the judiciary and civil service. [ 26 ] [ 27 ]
Ambassador to Ankara Andrey Karlov was a member of the organization
Fethullahists are recognized as a terrorist organization by Turkey [ 31 ] , TRNC , Pakistan [ 32 ] , the Organization of Islamic Cooperation and the Gulf Cooperation Council . [ 33 ] However, the terrorist activities of Fethullahists are not recognized by the United States and the European Union .
During the military coup attempt on July 15, 2016, Sergeant Major Aydın Özsıcak, who was among the putschists who raided the hotel in Marmaris where President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was staying , without being aware that Erdoğan had left the hotel, in order to kill him or capture him alive.
Fethullahists are an Islamic community and intelligence organization based on the teachings of Said Nursi , formed by people who came together with the instigation of Fethullah Gülen , and emerged in Izmir in the late 1960s. [ 11 ] [ 12 ]
The founder of the organization is Fethullah Gülen. The leader of the organization is identified as the Mahdi by most members of the movement . [ 41 ] [ 42 ] [ 43 ]
After 20 years have passed since the murder of Necip Hablemitoğlu, Ankara Chief Public Prosecutor's Office has completed the indictment regarding the murder. In the indictment, FETO leader Fetullah Gülen and organization leaders Mustafa Özcan, Aydın Köstem and Enver Altaylı were accused of instigating the premeditated murder of Hablemitoğlu, and fugitive retired Colonel Levent Göktaş, suspect retired captain Ahmet Tarkan Mumcuoğlu and retired major Fikret Emek were accused of "premeditated murder" of Hablemitoğlu. [ 60 ] It was also revealed that the police officer who assassinated Russian Ambassador to Ankara Andrey Karlov was a member of the organization. [ 61 ] [ 62 ]"
https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fethullah%C3%A7%C4%B1lar
"...that the Al-Nusra Front had claimed responsibility for the assassination, but this news was later denied."
https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Karlov
"Fethullah Gülen (April 27, 1941, Pasinler – October 20, 2024, Pennsylvania , USA ) is a Turkish imam , preacher and writer who was the founder and former leader of the Fethullahists organization . During the February 28 process , the Ankara Police Department of the period prepared a report about Gülen and his organization . [ 1 ] [ 2 ] [ 3 ] According to the report, Gülen was the leader of an organization and the members of the organization he led were infiltrating Turkish police units. [ 2 ] [ 4 ] [ 5 ] [ 6 ] [ 7 ] Three days after the General Directorate of Security received this report, on March 21 , 1999 , Gülen, citing health problems, went to the United States . From that date until his death on October 20 , 2024 ."
https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fethullah_G%C3%BClen
HCN comments:
To be a helpful person, or nusr, transliterations vary, is fine. Just because a group uses the words nusr or nusra something, does not automatically make them right, and if they do wrong, does not make everyone and anyone that uses nusra in their name to be wrong.
Similar concept for the writer Said Nursi. His writings were from years ago, during times of immense pressure on certain segments of society. It is not the case that everyone and anyone that speaks of Nursi is right nor wrong. Just because some people engaging in wrongdoing have used his name or claimed to be 'subscribers of philosophy/ideology', does not automatically make everyone else that picks up his book and sits down for a few minutes to read it, a person prone to wrongdoing.
Things are real serious when it comes to the the Mehdi or Mahdi concept. As the saying goes, 'Lord knows'. What is clearly not acceptable, is for various groups that hide under color of Islam and different studies in it, and use it to exploit others for the purposes of wrongdoing such as human trafficking and unlawful narcotics activities.
HCN comments:
To be a helpful person, or nusr, transliterations vary, is fine. Just because a group uses the words nusr or nusra something, does not automatically make them right, and if they do wrong, does not make everyone and anyone that uses nusra in their name to be wrong.
Similar concept for the writer Said Nursi. His writings were from years ago, during times of immense pressure on certain segments of society. It is not the case that everyone and anyone that speaks of Nursi is right nor wrong. Just because some people engaging in wrongdoing have used his name or claimed to be 'subscribers of philosophy/ideology', does not automatically make everyone else that picks up his book and sits down for a few minutes to read it, a person prone to wrongdoing.
Things are real serious when it comes to the the Mehdi or Mahdi concept. As the saying goes, 'Lord knows'. What is clearly not acceptable, is for various groups that hide under color of Islam and different studies in it, and use it to exploit others for the purposes of wrongdoing such as human trafficking and unlawful narcotics activities.
